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 A coastguards family
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| boltonl |
Posted on 14/03/2011 12:20
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My gggrandfather was a preventative water guard in Cadgwith Cornwall. He married in 1832 & then had 3 children(information gained from Cornwall OPC) In 1838 he was then transfered to Donegal Ireland where he was a boatman going from Mallin Head to Glengad Head to Culmore Quigleys point where he died in 1867 ( Information from ADM175/19) I am curios why a man & his young family would move from Cornwall to Ireland. Does anyone have any theorys? Did the coastguard himself ask for a transfer? Would a man be banished to Ireland for becoming too friendly with the locals (smugglers) Who decided where a coastguard should be transfered to? Did he have any say in the matter? How would he & his family have physically been moved there? I cannot imagine that he came home one night & said to his wife I have decided to take you all to wild Donegal (beautifull though it is) He was never promoted from boatman so if anyone can help on the day to day life of a coastguard or has a better imagination than me, please let me know |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 14/03/2011 19:22
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Hi Since I believe the man you are interested in is Peter Seabourne, I traced his moves back to the point of his nomination in 1831. From this it looks as if he was Irish, since he was nominated from Skibberene (Nom. No. 2693 - ADM 175/77 pdf 158 of 273), although his name is given as Peter Saburn. I would therefore assume that his transfer back to Ireland would have been at his own request. Sometimes the records do provide a clue as to the reason for the move i.e. 'married a native' or 'illness in the family', unfortunately in your instance the record is silent. On the question of how they were moved from England to Ireland, I would expect that they all took passage on a Revenue Cruiser at the Governments expense. However, if a man was moved because of a disciplinary issue, he could find himself paying the bill. Finally, I don't know if you picked it up, but he is also listed on ADM 175/39 pdf 95 of 284. While men on the Civilian List have less information than those on the Fleet List, it does provide an age (53) at 1st October 1858. Martin . Edited by crimea1854 on 14/03/2011 19:49 |
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| boltonl |
Posted on 15/03/2011 09:33
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crimea1854 wrote: Hi Since I believe the man you are interested in is Peter Seabourne, I traced his moves back to the point of his nomination in 1831. From this it looks as if he was Irish, since he was nominated from Skibberene (Nom. No. 2693 - ADM 175/77 pdf 158 of 273), although his name is given as Peter Saburn. I would therefore assume that his transfer back to Ireland would have been at his own request. Sometimes the records do provide a clue as to the reason for the move i.e. 'married a native' or 'illness in the family', unfortunately in your instance the record is silent. On the question of how they were moved from England to Ireland, I would expect that they all took passage on a Revenue Cruiser at the Governments expense. However, if a man was moved because of a disciplinary issue, he could find himself paying the bill. Finally, I don't know if you picked it up, but he is also listed on ADM 175/39 pdf 95 of 284. While men on the Civilian List have less information than those on the Fleet List, it does provide an age (53) at 1st October 1858. Martin . |
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| boltonl |
Posted on 15/03/2011 10:03
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Thanks Martin. It would make sense if Peter were Irish. Family history (unproven) relates that Peter worked on an estate, fell in love with the bosses daughter & they ran away together. It was thought that her name was Sophia Seymour - a descendant of Jane Seymour. On their marriage certificate in Cornwall her name is given as Sophia Davis - A witness was Richard Eccles coastguard - born in Ireland but stayed on in Cornwall Was Skibberene the main place to enlist as a coastguard or could they join anywhere? If near, it might give a clue to where Sophia came from. Lavinia |
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