View Thread
 John Upton Coast Guard from courtmacsherry
|
|
| Lita |
Posted on 09/03/2011 20:00
|
 New Member  Posts: 3 Joined: 09/03/2011 |
Hi i hope somebody can help me, i have just found out that my great grandmother elizabeth ann ives nee upton was born in courtmacsherry and that her father john upton was a coast guard. I have been on the Bandon Genealogy website and found my ggrandmothers baptism records along with her two brothers Fredrick and James, but i have not been able to find anything else out about the uptons on the website. Does anybody known how i find out about John Upton and if there are any records of coast guard around 1850 to 1870. Could John Upton has come over from england? I hope somebody can help Best Wishes Lita |
|
|
|
| crimea1854 |
Posted on 09/03/2011 23:00
|
 Administrator  Posts: 906 Joined: 09/07/2007 |
Welcome to the Forum Lita. From the CG records it appears that John Upton was nominated to the CG Service from HMS Poictiers on 17 July 1845, with a first posting to St Lawrence, in England. It was on 3 January 1850 that he was posted to Courtmacsherry. He remained at this station for 16 years, being pensioned on 31 January 1866. From my own research project I know that during the Crimean War he was one of those CG's who saw active duty, serving on HMS Duke of Wellington as an Ordinary Seaman (Ships No.16) with the Baltic Fleet, for which he was awarded the Baltic Medal. Having checked the National Archives main catalogue I can advise that he submitted a pension application to the Admiralty (ADM 29/71/538). Unfortunately this cannot yet be downloaded, but must be ordered, which takes about 3 weeks. This will provide details of his service, but no family information. To establish where he was born - from the pension application you will see that be was born around 1821 - you need to consult HMS Poictiers Ships Description Books (ADM 38/8751, 8752 & 8753), this can only be done at the National Archives. As well as a physical description, age, place of birth and marital status these will also provide a list of his previous ships and when he served on them. Hope this is of some help. Martin |
|
|
|
| Lita |
Posted on 10/03/2011 08:29
|
|
New Member Posts: 3 Joined: 09/03/2011 |
Hi Martin Thank you very much for that information i would never have got that on my own. Is there any reason why i can't find out where they lived in courtmacsherry. Is there a website where i could find out. Thanks again Lita |
|
|
|
| crimea1854 |
Posted on 10/03/2011 09:19
|
|
Administrator Posts: 906 Joined: 09/07/2007 |
Lita My guess would be that he lived in the row of CG Cottages at Courtmacsherry, but I don't know what date they were built. If I'm right then this may be of interest: http://maps.osi.i...542684,6,9 but make sure the 'historic' map layer is activated. Martin Edited by crimea1854 on 10/03/2011 11:57 |
|
|
|
| bpa |
Posted on 10/03/2011 12:59
|
|
Senior Member  Posts: 134 Joined: 11/11/2009 |
Census of the period have been destroyed. Griffiths valuation recorded most people who leased or owned land/houses between about 1847 and 1864 so if John Upton had leased a cottage, it could have been recorded. There are no entries for John Upton in the likely areas around Courtmacsherry / Timoleague etc. You can check here http://www.askabo...nameSearch I think many coastguard stations around Ireland were rebuilt around 1860-70s (Tony could confirm period) so the coastguard building John Upton lived in may have been the old or new building. Using Martin's map reference the "Historic 6" map (1837-1842) is older than the "Historic 25" (1888-1913) and the coastguard station location is different in the maps. A good photo of the later Coastguard station can be seen here up on the hill http://www.flickr...2176260272 |
|
|
|
| Lita |
Posted on 10/03/2011 21:26
|
|
New Member Posts: 3 Joined: 09/03/2011 |
Thanks to everybody who has helped. I have one more question for Martin, could you tell me where abouts St Lawrence is in england. Thanks Lita |
|
|
|
| crimea1854 |
Posted on 11/03/2011 07:22
|
|
Administrator Posts: 906 Joined: 09/07/2007 |
Lita It's west of Ventnor, on the Isle of Wight. Martin . Edited by crimea1854 on 11/03/2011 08:09 |
|
|
|
| lbd147 |
Posted on 16/05/2011 22:14
|
|
New Member Posts: 1 Joined: 16/05/2011 |
Hi Lita, This is a really fascinating post. James Woryer Upton (b, 1856 in Courtmacsherry), Elizabeth's brother was my Great Great Grandfather and I have been researching his career in the Royal Navy and also as a Coastguard. He died in Kent on the 22 January 1916 having retired as a Coastguard. I think his last posting was in Dover, Kent. The inofmation above about John Upton is great as it fills in quite a few blanks for me. I have been pulling my Family tree together on Ancestry.co.uk - both James (Woryer Upton and James John Upton) should appear in a search with links to the White family tree. If I find any further information happy to email it to you. Nick |
|
|
|
| player65 |
Posted on 20/12/2011 22:11
|
|
New Member Posts: 1 Joined: 20/12/2011 |
Hi Nick Sorry i haven't replied to you sooner but i haven't been on this website for a long time. Out of all the sibling i have been having trouble finding james upton and also fredrick ( did he come back to kent? ). It would be great if you have further information about james and also john, and if you would like some information about my family tree i will help you all i can. Lita |
|
|
|
| maryoleary |
Posted on 30/12/2013 10:06
|
|
New Member Posts: 1 Joined: 30/12/2013 |
This message is a long time coming! I have been involved with 'The Gathering' celebrations in Courtmacsherry over 2013. For those of you who don't know 'The Gathering' was a government iniative to boost tourism by encouraging local events (gatherings) of families, school reunions, village celebrations etc. I was involved with the local RNLI (lifeboat) station in logging the history of the statiions and crews who manned it since its foundation in 1825. That brief expanded into a history of all those who lived in the village and we did a special section on the Coastguard. The station was founded in Courtmacsherry in 1820, just two years after the service began and continued in two locations until Irish Independence in 1922. I have recently been expanding that research, with a view to the publication of a book based on our findings, and I have visited the national Valuation Office. That gives details of every owner and tenant of every property in the country since 1850. AND I FOUND JOHN UPTON! John Upton lived at two properties on The Terrace, Courtmacsherry. They still stand, though much modernised. When he and his family lived there, they would have been one storey cottages, door in the middle, one window at either side, slated roof. The dates for his occupation of these houses are 1864 in the one now occupied by Anne McCarthy and 1866 in the one now occupied by Maureen and Danny O'Mahony. If any of you would like a photograph of The Terrace, email me at maryhollyoleary@gmail.com and I will gladly let you have it. Mary O'Leary |
|
|
|
| Jump to Forum: |
