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| robertnicholls |
Posted on 27/09/2010 20:59
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Any ideas where i can obtain records for coastguard pensions. My 3x Great Grandfather John Nicholls born 14-07-1815 Flushing Cornwall, died 18-12-1881 Donaghadee Co. Down. I have been told that his 2nd wife Annabella ( married 29-09-1858 Ballina) was recieving a coast guard pension. Also do the coastguards keep records of family members deaths for those whilst still in service. John's 1st wife was Mary Ann Nicholls they married in 1840 in Mylor Cornwall but I don't know when she died.
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| bpa |
Posted on 02/10/2010 15:51
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This article gives some info on Coastguard pension - scroll down to bottom as it is near the end. http://www.coastg...icle_id=94 From the article, I think ADM23 in UK National Archive is a starting point but there are other documents mentioned in the article if ADM23 doesn't have what you want. http://www.nation...TREF=adm23 and http://www.nation...MARKERSCN= Edited by bpa on 02/10/2010 15:53 |
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| Tony |
Posted on 03/11/2010 16:10
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Some general remarks on Coastguard Pensions “ In order to get rid of the older R.N. officers a pension scheme was introduced, in 1849, in which any officer applying to retire had to have at least 10 years service, and to be incapacitated by ill-health or age, and to have served in the Coastguard at the end of may 1849. The pensions were £30 per year. The men of the service started their own scheme by paying 6d. per month and this gave widows £25 plus a pound for each child.” Reference ; Shipminder, The Story of Her Majesty’s Coastguard by Bernard Scarlet . p 63. Pub. 1971. “In the following year (1866) another problem in connection with the cruisers had to be tackled. Officers who had entered the service subsequent to the date of its transfer to the Admiralty found that they were not eligible for any pension of any sort and naturally it rankled with them when they compared their lot with brother officers of rather more seniority. The regulation only permitted pensions to be paid by the treasury, and, of course, that department was not going to saddle its estimate with payments to officers with whom it had no connection. But it was felt that the injustice was there, and accordingly, in 1866, the matter was adjusted. The Chief Officer was entitled to a pension of £100 a year, with an additional £5 for each years service up to a maximum of £130, while his widow had a pension of £50 a year. In the case of the Senior Mate the pension varied from £82 to £110 in £3 steps, while his widow got £35. The Second Mate’s pension went up in similar steps from £62 to £100, the widow’s pension being £25. In other directions the pensions were quite satisfactory, except for those who had the job of preparing the estimates. For instance, it was not until 1883 that Mr. Oxenford died at the age of 100, the last surviving member of the old Force. He had enjoyed the pension that the Coastguard estimates paid him as compensation for losing his former billet no less than 52 years.” Reference; His Majesty’s Coastguard by Frank Bowen p 153,154. “The scale of pensions to widows and children of the service afloat had remained stationary since 1866, and in 1904 it was felt that something really ought to be done about the matter. The rates in operation were certainly inadequate for the requirements and scale of living of the day and they could not be called an inducement to get the right type of men into the service. Therefore, a new scale of pensions was started which gave them a wide range. The dependants of a Chief Officer were to receive £50 a year if he died in the course of his service, £80 if he were killed in action, and £65 if he were drowned on duty. The figures for the Second Mate were £25, £35 and £30 respectively, while compassionate allowances could be granted from £5 to £16 per annum. Reference; His Majesty’s Coastguard p 171. “The Coastguard Today. There is no pension scheme for the new Force, for it must be remembered that the men have all earned their naval pensions and will not be left destitute in any circumstance. But if a man retires at the age of 60 having had at least 15 years service in the Coastguard, he is entitled to a gratuity which is sufficient to set him up in a little business for the evening of his days should he feel so disposed” Reference; His Majesty’s Coastguard p 176. Tony Daly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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