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Catherine Brown / Darby's Point, Mayo
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| kilmeny |
Posted on 20/10/2009 13:59
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From your CG burial records I found a Catherine Brown ( age 38 ) buried at Dugort in 1867, while living at Darby's Point. It does not give any relationship to another, but I suspect that she might be a sister of William Brown(e) ( also mentioned on this site ) He was back in Achill, serving as a coastguard, from 1865 -ish What I'd like to know is : Was there an actual CG station, with family accomodation, at Darby's Point ? This is situated at the southernmost tip of Achill Island, facing Achillbeg, ( where other Browne siblings were born, while father, John was a CG, until his death in 1848.) Another quick query : A George Browne CG, was buried in Bray , Waterford, in 1827, aged 54. He was stationed at Bray at the time of death. Do you have any info re: his CG record, please ? Many thanks for all yr. help so far.....Kilmeny |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 20/10/2009 15:23
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Hi Kilmeny Re your enquiry about George Browne, there appears to be a bit of a mystery around this man. According to the Establishment Book he was originally nominated to the CG service on 30 September 1822, but does not appear to have taken up his first posting at Bray until 17 March 1825!. The place from where he was nominated is given as Gosport. Now here comes the real mystery. There was no nomination number given, so starting from 1822 I checked the Nomination Books, and think I finally found him on 8 July 1823 (Nom. No. 1422). However, although appointed to Desmond CGS he failed to appear! I'm more or less convinced it is one and the same man, because in the 1823 nomination book his address is given as 2 Chapel Street, Gosport. So when, and how, he finally managed to get himself appointed to Bray I've no idea, but he remained at this station until his death in 1827. Martin |
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| kilmeny |
Posted on 20/10/2009 17:53
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Thank you for the Geo. Browne info.....not much to go on, but I will keep it for future ref.! Regarding the Catherine Browne query, I now go back to an earlier theory that she was the wife of William Browne CG. As said in earlier posting, William declared himself single in 1861 in Kent. However there was a marriage between a Wm. Browne and Catherine Summers in Sep. Qr.1861, Medway Dist. There was a child named Catherine Brown(e) baptised in Dugort in 1866. Then, I had previously found a death record for Cath. Brown(e) in Dugort for 1867, so assumed ( wrongly ) that it was that baby. However I have since found that the Cath. Brown(e) who died in 1867 was 38 years old......so this gives rise to my theory that Cath. was William's wife, and the newborn Catherine was their daughter ?? There is a possibility that William remarried, as he was present at the death of his wife Elizabeth, in1893, in Dugort. And he died " a widower " in 1899. I am sure I have chanced across a list of children of CGs on COY, but can't find it now. Do you indeed have access to such a list, so that I could confirm/disprove this info pieced together for William Brown(e). It is just a goodish hunch so far, and I am crossing my fingers ! Also, I have answered my own query re: Darby's Point , so no need for anyone to waste time on that now ! Thanks so much, once again......Kilmeny Edited by kilmeny on 20/10/2009 17:56 |
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| Tony |
Posted on 20/10/2009 19:16
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Hello, There is no list of Children, as such, on site, but I do have a List of over 3,000 Church of Ireland Baptismal records which I refer to on getting queries. Tony |
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| kilmeny |
Posted on 20/10/2009 22:01
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Thank you Tony,.......when you have a spare mo. ( do you ever ?) could you look and see if you have Catherine Browne, bap. in 1866 in Dugort, please, and identify her parents. - and if any other Brown(e) children bap. at around same sort of time( ie. John in 1877 ??) Please don't spend too much time and energy on this, as it is only peripheral to my main researches.....but it might tie up some loose ends. Thank you.....kilmeny |
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| aussienoel |
Posted on 21/10/2009 12:27
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Darby's Point was an alternative name for the coastguard station built at Cloghmore in 1864. It was officially still known as the "Achillbeg CG Station", indicating that the name referred to its area of responsibility rather than the actual location of the coastguard building(s) themselves. According to Jonathan Beaumont in his excellent book on Achillbeg, the buildings on Achillbeg and at Cloghmore were occupied simultaneously for some years before the former were abandoned. No doubt you already have the details for John Brown, but according to ADM 175/19 his date of appointment to Achillbeg was 13th September 1839, and his previous station was Islandmore. He was "Discharged Dead" on 12th March 1848. In his years at the Achillbeg station the CGs were occupying buildings on Achillbeg itself, and the 1838 OS map of the island shows the station's location. Noel Edited by aussienoel on 21/10/2009 12:55 |
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| aussienoel |
Posted on 22/10/2009 02:32
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The other thing that I might point out is that there is an on-line database for Irish records here: http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/index.php where you can search various BMD records etc. Registration is free, and you only have to pay-to-view if you wish to look at a particular record of interest to you. A search suggests to me that there was no Catherine Browne born or baptised in Co. Mayo with a father named William at the time of interest to you. If you do a general search on births/baptisms to the surname and make a list of results, then put in the father's first name and see which, if any, come up, and finally put in the parish name, you can narrow the field of any possibles quite quickly. I could not find any Brown(e)s born/baptised to William in the Achill and Dugort CofI parish in the period to 1872. You can find Catherine Browne's burial . Noel |
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| Tony |
Posted on 22/10/2009 11:25
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I do not have any Catherine Browne or Browne at that date line in Co.Mayo. Regards Tony |
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| kilmeny |
Posted on 24/10/2009 14:52
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Thank you Tony for looking, even though nothing found. Now a thank you to Noel........and a warning ! I do know about , and use the IFHF site often, and know how to find as much info as poss. in order to eliminate 99% of the found records , and hopefully leave the 1% gold nugget you've been praying for, for FREE. However, having got up today with a brilliant new idea for finally finding my elusive names, and looked forst at my emails I discovered that my ' membership' of their site had been disabled, because I have been using it too much , without going on to pay for final look-ups !! Trouble is that I still can't find what I have been looking for, for ages, otherwise I would willingly have paid to have the record. To pay 5 Euros for one look up is beyond me, unless I am 100% sure it is right! So, spread your use of this site....don't do as I did , and spend a wet afternoon trawling through everything in the desperate hope of finding a treasure ! I have now returned to my original theory that Catherine Brown(e) may have been a sister to William Brown(e) CG, and his sister Elizabeth, (who md. John Ost on Achill.) John and Eliz. Ost had a dau. Catherine Jane Ost in 1867, so she may have been named in honour of Cath. Brown(e)who died in same year. Looks likely ! Sorry to take up so much space with my waffling........but I need to correct my errors!.........Kilmeny |
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