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William H Rogers (and Thomas May)
bakerm
As a route to finding a bit more about what Thomas May (my great great grandfather) got up to at Dingle Coastguard station, I've been trying to find out a bit more about William H. Rogers - who (if I'm reading it correctly) was the "Chief Off. Insp." in 1901 in the same location as Thomas May (at least, they have the same Reference number on the 1901 census listings on this site)

But I'm not getting very far - so I wondered if anyone had any more information about William H Rogers - particularly his age and/or place of birth.

All help gratefully received!

Matt
 
Tony
Hello Matt,
The 1901 Census Returns. Dingle Station 34/23. Co.Kerry.
Thomas May. Chief Boatman. Ch.of Eng. 46. Married. Born England.
Annie Elizabeth May. Wife. C.of E. 46. Marr. Born England.
Elizabeth May. Dau. C.of E. 23 mother's Help. Not Married. B.Eng.
Louisa May. Dau. C.of E. 12. Scholar. B.Kerry.
Maud May. Dau. C.of E. 10. Scholar. B. Kerry.
Mabel May. Dau. C.of E. 8. Scholar. B.Kerry.
David May. Son. C.of E. 6. Scholar. B. Kerry.
James May. Son. C.of E. 4. Scholar. B.Donegal.
Elsie May. Dau. C.of E. 2. B.Donegal.

William H.Rogers. Inspecting Officer C.G. Brethern. 52. Married. Born England.
Emily Rogers. Wife. Brethern. 52. Marr. B.Eng.
Emily E.Rogers. Dau. Brethern. 27. Not Marr. B.England
Reference: National Archives. Bishop St. Bublin 6.

Thom's Irish Almanac.
Rogers, W.H. Chief Officer Kilmore Co.Wexford !888 – 1891.
Rogers, William H. Divisional Officer/. Dingle. Co.Kerry 1899 – 1903.

Hope this helps in your research.
Tony
 
bakerm
Thanks. That does help in my research, although it hasnt provided any immediate results!

I have a supplementary question about interpreting service records though. Thomas MAY's service record has him serving on Valiant from 1 Jan 1881 to 26 Feb 1881, and then on Valiant Ventry from 27 February 1881 to 22 August 1885 (as a Boatman)

I am a bit confused as to what this actually means. Does it mean that, although officially serving on Valiant, he was actually "stationed" at Ventry coastguard station?

Thanks for all your help, both now and in the past.
 
crimea1854
Hi Matt, and a Happy New Year.

In answer to your query, from about 1864 each Coastguard District was assigned a warship that acted as a Headquarters. From this date the men stationed in the Districts appeared in the Establishment Books (EB.) under a particular ship, but each CG Station still had its own separate page in the EB identifying who was serving at the individual stations within the District, as with the old system. So on a man’s service record you may find only Valiant listed, but a check of the EB will determine the station he was actually serving at; although in some instances, in addition to the ship’s name, it is possible to find the CG station named as well.

CG Men were expected to do at least six weeks sea duty, where they would usually serve on their HQ ship and carry out manoeuvres with other CG ships and regular RN vessels. These HQ ships tended to be older vessels, or those found only suitable for coastal duty. In the event of a national crisis they would still have been expected to provide an effective defence force, hence the need for the sea time.

Regards

Martin
Edited by crimea1854 on 02/01/2009 12:13
 
bakerm
Many thanks Martin - that's an excellent answer and really helpful.

It seems that the EBs for Valiant in ADM175 only go as far as 1876 so I'm out of luck there for the moment.

A Very Happy New Year to you too.

 
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