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 Charles McNamara
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| stevemacit |
Posted on 19/04/2008 12:42
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My 3 X Gt G/f was Charles McNamara born 1789(the real date) but records say 1785, some one clearly lied about his age as he was an orphan and they were desperate to be rid of him. I have added as much info as possible, if any one has come across this man or his family during their research please let me know, I am particularly interested in any of his children born before 1826, he married in 1811 but the earliest recorded child I have is c1826. I have details of his postings in Devon and Ireland but I have strong suspicions that he may also have been posted in South Wales Charles McNamara, Born Northam, Devon, 11th January 1785 Son of Thomas and Mary McNamara Married Elizabeth Williams, 23rd January 1811 at Ilfracombe. ADM/175/2 Coastguard records for Southern England from 1817 29th January 1817 appointed to Porlock Quay as a Commissioned Boatman. He was removed, (meaning transferred) and sent to Appledore. He was again removed, this time on promotion and sent to Ireland. ADM/175/15 Coastguard records for Ireland from about 1822 Charles appears from Blackwater on 1st March 1825 at Morris Castle which is a Coastguard station subordinate to Wexford and Gorey. He is now a Chief Boatman. ADM/175/16 Later Irish records On 5th of April 1826 Charles is removed from Morris Castle and arrives in Kilcorgan in County Galway. On the 5th of July 1829 he is again removed, this time to Sunderland where he fills a vacancy as Chief Boatman created by the removal of J Woodruff. ADM/175/6 English records from 1830 Charles was scheduled to be removed from Sunderland to Lymington on 7th November 1835 but this order was cancelled and he continued as Chief Boatman at the Whitburn detachment near Sunderland. He was finally discharged on the 8th March 1847 with an allowance of £46 per annum. BT/113/89 Merchant Seamen’s records. This shows that prior to the coastguard service Charles had served in the Merchant Navy, his ticket number was 177018. He first went to sea as an apprentice in 1801. He died at 29 Northumberland Place, Sunderland of Typhus on the 10th of December 1847 aged 59. The earliest generations. Charles Macnammarra born Northam Jan 11 1789 son of Thomas and Mary Macnammarra. Elizabeth Macnammarra born Northam 30th April 1786 daughter of Thomas and Mary Macnammarra. Thomas Macnamarren born Northam 25th August 1754 the son of Charles and Grace Macknamarra John Macknamarren born Northam 15th February 1751 the son of Charles and Grace Macknamarra Elizabeth Macnamarren born Northam born 12th of July 1750 daughter of Charles and Grace Macknamarra The marriage at Northam of Thomas Macnamarra and Mary Rowe both of Northam at Northam parish church 6th July 1785 The marriage at Northam of Charles Macknamarra and Grace Rogers both of Northam at Northam parish church 12th February 1749. (This gives us an approximate date of birth of 1725 for them both) The death of Elizabeth Macnammarra July 1750 The death of Charles Macknamarra a mariner 1785 The death of Grace Macknammarra widow of Charles 6th of June 1788 The death of Mary Macnamarra wife of Thomas 25th of January 1789 The death of Thomas Macnamarra a pauper 22nd of December 1791 It is very easy to fall into the trap of merely collecting and recording dates and names, it pays to study them carefully, looking at those on the previous pages; Charles birth dates and ages do not match. The birth date from coastguard records is 11/01/1785, the parish register 11/01/1789 at his death in 1847 his age is given as 59. Working out Charles age from these dates he was either 58 or 62 depending on which date of birth you use. I believe that the Parish registers give the correct date, if Charles had been born in 1785 his birth would have been recorded as that of the “Bastard child of Mary Rowe”, this is clearly not the case. Using the 1789 date; Mary died on 25th January 1789 2 weeks after Charles’ birth, during this era the death of women during childbirth or shortly after was commonplace, Thomas died on Dec 22 1791 leaving Charles and his older sister Elizabeth orphans. Charles would have been 3 months off his third birthday and Elizabeth would have turned 5 in the November. Ask yourself these questions, Who had cared for Charles and Elizabeth after their mother Mary’s death? Who had cared for them after their father’s death? Charles would have needed a wet nurse, this would not have presented a problem as wet nurses were plentiful, bereaved mothers abounded and such was the poverty that many women would suckle a motherless child for a small consideration. It is possible that a relative may have taken the two children into their homes, another possibility is that Charles and Elizabeth could have been “nurse children”. These were orphan or foundling children, who were placed with a family who would care for them with financial assistance from the parish. It was normal that when these children were old enough the would be apprenticed, placed in service or in the case of boys sent to sea. It is also possible that they ended up in the workhouse, Thomas had died a pauper, why? As a widower Thomas would have had to give up working to care for his children and the family would have been “on the Parish” receiving Parish relief, this would have been a pittance barely covering their most basic needs. It seems more than likely that the being nurse children had been their fate, a grim existence but at least they would have been housed, fed and clothed. The workhouse is an unlikely option as the survival rate for small children in these places at this time was virtually nil. Where and by who Charles was raised is a puzzle, but wherever he was raised he received an education. Most of the population at this time were illiterate, Charles was not, his coastguard records state that he could read and write. Elizabeth his wife was illiterate as is proved by “her mark” on son Charles’ marriage certificate. The younger Charles could also read and write, this is obvious as he is recorded as an apprentice printer, he had probably been taught to read and write by his father. |
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| newbyer |
Posted on 06/06/2008 03:21
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I am amazed at the information you have posted. Just wondering if we may be related. I am trying to track a Denis McNamara (born about 1784) who joined up with the 100th Irish Regiment of Foot in Dublin. He fought at Fort George in the war of 1812. Can not track his parents, or discover his death, but I do have knowledge of his first marriage to Jane Evers, and his second marriage in 1821 to Mary Ann Walsh. Denis survived a ship wreck off the coast of Nova Scotia on his way to Quebec in 1805 (believe it was October 18th). Believe he may of had a brother Michael who also came to Canada. Am also guessing? about a brother Patrick who was also stationed at Fort George. |
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| stevemacit |
Posted on 25/06/2008 13:12
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Cannot say if there is a link, I have my branch of the McNamara family in Northam Devon from about 1750. I have searched records in Devon county archives and have come up with only the info I have posted here. Family lore has always maintained that the family originated from County Waterford and I have come up with a few very tenuous links to this area. |
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