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 John Ward, Robert's Cove
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| Annette |
Posted on 08/06/2021 08:06
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Hello from Australia I am looking for any information/advice/connections to my great-great-great grandfather, Joseph Ward who I believe to have been a Coastguard at Robert's Cove, probably in the 1840s-1850s. His daughter, Jane Ward, married my, great-great grandfather, Michael Lyons in Cork in August 1857 Please advise if this request is not allowable in this group. Kind regards Annette Boyle Edited by Annette on 08/06/2021 08:20 |
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| crimea1854 |
Posted on 09/06/2021 08:42
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Annette welcome to the Forum. Your question is just what the Forum aims to answer. I have traced Joseph's CG service and the references I quote refer to documents available online off the National Archives website as free downloads, all in the ADM 175 series. Your man had been working as an Extra Man at Mynish CG Station, Westport, prior to officially joining the CG Service. You are fortunate because the early Irish Nomination Book sometimes includes details of a mans place of birth, his age, marital status and any children. If you download ADM 175/99 pdf 124 you will see that in Feb 1829 Joseph gave his place of birth as Baltimore, 29, married with two children. Immediately on entry he was transferred to Atherfield CG Station in England (ADM 175/16 pdf 264) - he then made the following moves: 9 Feb 1829 Westport (Mynish) to Atherfield 175/5 - 41 21 April 1829 Atherfield to Bembridge 175/5 - 36 1 Sept 1830 Bembridge to Ryde 175/5 - 40 12 June 1832 Ryde to Lighthouse (Ireland) 175/16 - 85 6 Nov 1833 Lighthouse/Roches Point to Roberts Cove 175/19 - 104 from where, after 20 years at the same station, he was pensioned on 1 Dec 1853 ADM 175/19 pdf 104. Hope this helps and opens up some more avenues for research. Regards Martin |
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| Veronica |
Posted on 20/06/2021 13:13
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Dear Annette and Martin, I am so excited to find this information. I just discovered tonight that Joseph Ward was a Coastguard from my great great grandfather, Michael Ward's, marriage certificate. I had no idea what the job of coast guard was about when I thought I'd try my luck with a google search, but I had hoped it might lead me somewhere, and it sure did. This page was the first one I opened. Annette, thank you for asking the question. I guess we are distant relatives via this family line. Martin, thank you for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards, Veronica Wong |
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| Annette |
Posted on 25/02/2022 07:03
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crimea1854 wrote: Annette welcome to the Forum. Your question is just what the Forum aims to answer. I have traced Joseph's CG service and the references I quote refer to documents available online off the National Archives website as free downloads, all in the ADM 175 series. Your man had been working as an Extra Man at Mynish CG Station, Westport, prior to officially joining the CG Service. You are fortunate because the early Irish Nomination Book sometimes includes details of a mans place of birth, his age, marital status and any children. If you download ADM 175/99 pdf 124 you will see that in Feb 1829 Joseph gave his place of birth as Baltimore, 29, married with two children. Immediately on entry he was transferred to Atherfield CG Station in England (ADM 175/16 pdf 264) - he then made the following moves: 9 Feb 1829 Westport (Mynish) to Atherfield 175/5 - 41 21 April 1829 Atherfield to Bembridge 175/5 - 36 1 Sept 1830 Bembridge to Ryde 175/5 - 40 12 June 1832 Ryde to Lighthouse (Ireland) 175/16 - 85 6 Nov 1833 Lighthouse/Roches Point to Roberts Cove 175/19 - 104 from where, after 20 years at the same station, he was pensioned on 1 Dec 1853 ADM 175/19 pdf 104. Hope this helps and opens up some more avenues for research. Regards Martin Merged on 25/02/2022 07:05:05: crimea1854 wrote: Annette welcome to the Forum. Your question is just what the Forum aims to answer. I have traced Joseph's CG service and the references I quote refer to documents available online off the National Archives website as free downloads, all in the ADM 175 series. Your man had been working as an Extra Man at Mynish CG Station, Westport, prior to officially joining the CG Service. You are fortunate because the early Irish Nomination Book sometimes includes details of a mans place of birth, his age, marital status and any children. If you download ADM 175/99 pdf 124 you will see that in Feb 1829 Joseph gave his place of birth as Baltimore, 29, married with two children. Immediately on entry he was transferred to Atherfield CG Station in England (ADM 175/16 pdf 264) - he then made the following moves: 9 Feb 1829 Westport (Mynish) to Atherfield 175/5 - 41 21 April 1829 Atherfield to Bembridge 175/5 - 36 1 Sept 1830 Bembridge to Ryde 175/5 - 40 12 June 1832 Ryde to Lighthouse (Ireland) 175/16 - 85 6 Nov 1833 Lighthouse/Roches Point to Roberts Cove 175/19 - 104 from where, after 20 years at the same station, he was pensioned on 1 Dec 1853 ADM 175/19 pdf 104. Hope this helps and opens up some more avenues for research. Regards Martin Dear Martin I am trying to work out how to post a reply to you, so I do hope this works. Thank you so very much for your reply. For a number of reasons it has taken me too long to thank you. I truly appreciate your work - and generosity of time. I am looking forward to pursuing the information you have provided. With kind regards Annette Merged on 25/02/2022 07:08:46: Veronica wrote: Dear Annette and Martin, I am so excited to find this information. I just discovered tonight that Joseph Ward was a Coastguard from my great great grandfather, Michael Ward's, marriage certificate. I had no idea what the job of coast guard was about when I thought I'd try my luck with a google search, but I had hoped it might lead me somewhere, and it sure did. This page was the first one I opened. Annette, thank you for asking the question. I guess we are distant relatives via this family line. Martin, thank you for sharing your knowledge. Kind regards, Veronica Wong Hello Veronica - have just found your reply and am very excited to receive it. Yes, we must be distant relatives! I would love to pursue the information and your line. Joseph Ward's daughter Jane, married Michael Lyons and came to Australia - Ballarat in Victoria, initially. They are my great-great grandparents. I live in Australia. Where are you located? Kind regards Annette Edited by Annette on 25/02/2022 07:08 |
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| willoughr |
Posted on 05/09/2022 15:09
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Martin alerted me to this thread. I would be interested to hear what happened to Ward after he retired from HM Coastguard. Is it known when or where he died for example? Ward appears in my research as having won a Royal Humane Society bronze medal under the following circumstances: MacDonald, Archibald RHS silver medal Award: On the morning of 29 July 1837, during a heavy northerly gale, a fishing boat was seen to be in great difficulties off Robert’s Cove, Bridfieldstown, Co Cork. The crew’s struggles were observed from the coastguard station and a very small boat was launched to attempt to give them assistance. However, the gale was too fierce and the boat only made it back to the cove with difficulty. Local landlord Sir Thomas Howland Roberts and Lieutenant MacDonald, who was then living in Bridfieldstown, hurried to Ringabella Bay and obtained a hooker. In this, MacDonald and five coastguards went out under close reefed sails and rescued the three man crew, just as they had almost given up hope. The rescue was brought to the attention of the RHS by Archibald MacDonald himself. The Society initially considered the circumstances at its committee meeting on 16 August 1837 and they sought clarification from Sir Thomas Roberts (see Young, 1871, p. 72, who erroneously implies Roberts was also awarded a silver medal by the RHS for this rescue) about MacDonald’s exertions on this occasion. Having received his response in due course MacDonald’s case was recommended on to their General Court. They, on 3 January 1838, granted the Society’s silver medal to MacDonald and the bronze to the five boatmen (the award being announced in among places The Hull Packet, Friday 12 January 1838). Apart from James McCarthy (who was perhaps particularised as being the senior ranking coastguard), the names of the other boatmen were omitted from the RHS Case Book. It appears that there was confusion over the other individuals involved as in June 1838 the Society noted it had received a letter from MacDonald ‘signifying that in the case 13129 the names of Mills, Jones, and Stenson were reported and to whom bronze medals had been sent instead of Ford, Ward, and Nichols. Resolved that bronze medals be sent to these last mentioned men when those already sent have been returned’ (RHS Committee Minutes, 20 June 1838). Considering the Robert’s Cove establishment books, it indicates there was a detachment from that station based at Ringabella Bay, the scene of the rescue, though they are not identified. The full Robert’s Cove establishment at the time of the rescue consisted of one Chief Officer (John Hull), one Chief Boatman (Thomas McNaughton), two Commissioned Boatmen (William Mills and James McCarthy), and eight Boatman (Patrick Desmond, William Penver, William Jenkins, Joseph Ward, Samuel Jones, William Ford, Edward Dwyer, and James Stenson). From this, three of the Boatmen involved clearly were James McCarthy, William Ford and Joseph Ward. There was an ‘Isaac Nicholls’ stationed as a Boatman at the neighbouring Crosshaven station at the time and this may have been the ‘Nichols’ previously referred to. The precise identity of the remaining coastguard rescuer is unclear, though – assuming he was based at Robert’s Cove – he is likely to be either Desmond, Penver, Jenkins or Dwyer. RHS case no. 13129. Awards in bronze to James McCarthy, William Ford, Joseph Ward, Isaac Nichols and one other Coastguard. Is his medal known to survive in the family? Best wishes Roger Willoughby Roger Willoughby
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| lizbet29152 |
Posted on 11/11/2024 09:06
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Hi Annette and Veronica, It appears that I am also one of your distant relatives. Joseph Ward and Margaret, nee Johnson, are my Great-great-great Grandparents through their daughter, Jane Lyons, nee Ward. I have been searching for a death or burial for him for many years. I always presumed that he would have died in Australia, specifically Ballarat, where his wife and much of his family lived. It took me some time to differentiate between Joseph and his like-named son who was drowned in a pool in Geelong when he was only 42. Joseph Jnr was the Mine Manager of a large Ballarat gold mine. Margaret's Death Notice mentions both her husband's Coast Guard Service and her son being the Mine Manager. Perhaps Joseph's Service Record, mentioned in this forum, will lead me closer to a record of his death! As for the National Archives Records, I am clearly a rank beginner, as I was unable to find those records of Joseph Ward. Thanks for this wonderful site. Elizabeth Fleming |
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