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Edmund Lane 1835-1895
geoff sully
My ggfather Edmund was an able seaman on HMS Conqueror when she sank off Rum Cay in December 1862.
When the crew were paid off at Hamoaze in March 1862 he was apparently seconded to HMS Hawke on coastguard duty at Queenstown.
How can I check if this is correct and find out how long he served?
By 1871 he was a greengrocer in Stoke Newington, London.
 
crimea1854
Geoff welcome to the Forum.

I can find no evidence that he served at a land-based Coastguard Station, but this does not mean he never served on Hawke. In the early 1860's each CG District was allocated a warship with a standing crew, and as you rightly say Hawke was in Queenstown.

To check the story your best bet is to visit the National Archives at Kew and consult Hawke's Ships Description Book (ADM 38/8247). Without a Ships Number it would mean checking the entire book, but if your man is there it will provide a service history, physical description and other snippets that might be of interest.

Just out of interest do you know where he was born?

Hope this helps.
Martin
 
geoff sully
Thanks for the information Martin.

Edmund's census information says that he was born in Ballyduff, Cork, Ireland.
I can't find a Ballyduff in Cork, and wonder if it's actually Ballydehob, Cork.
 
crimea1854
This could be your man and if it is would save you a visit to Kew: http://discovery....r/D7892538

Martin
 
geoff sully
Hi Martin,

Yes this is my ggfather. Many thanks for the help - saved me a trip from Vancouver Island!!
Now i can try and trace his career on "Hawke".

Thanks again.

Geoff.
 
bpa
Edmund's census information says that he was born in Ballyduff, Cork, Ireland.
I can't find a Ballyduff in Cork, and wonder if it's actually Ballydehob, Cork.


There are two Ballyduff townlands in Cork (official Irish placename web site http://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=ballyduff or another site - not sure who runs it http://www.irish-place-names.com/ )

Basically one Ballyduff is south of Ballymaloe not far from Ballycotton and the second is near Mallow.

Often people who joined navy were from coastal regions and the first Ballyduff is not far from Ballycotton on the coast.

Since Census info pre 1901 was destroyed Griffith's valuation and tithe applotment are sources of info about owner/tenants in 1830s-1860s. Using Griffith's valuation ( http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/ ) - there were a lot of Lane's in Cork around 1840-1860. However in 1833 according to title applotment in Doneraile about 10km north of the Mallow Ballyduff, there was an Edmond Lane ( http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=lane&firstname=edmond&county=Cork&parish=&townland=&search=Search ) . Perhaps he is a relative as often sons were named after a grandfather.

There is a Cork baptism record for a Edmund Lane in 1836 on the roots ireland website http://www.rootsireland.ie/ The baptism records are often disappointing in that they may have father's and mother's name but little else so unless it looks like the right church - it may be hard to say it is your ancestor.
 
geoff sully
Thanks for the input. I have checked the Edmund Lane from Doneraile, and he could be a connection, as could the namesake in Cork. Unfortunately I have no other information to narrow it down.
Can anyone help me to locate the logbook for HMS Hawke in the 1860s?
 
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